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Sometimes it is hard to decide whether to continue maintaining an atoms module or not.... So I did "snapshots" of downloads on 9/11/2020 21:44 and 14/12/2020 12:20 respectively to see which modules are in the actual top downloads. 

Still, this is not a fair result, such as IPCV having some "patches" which will increase the download number, and some other factors as well. 

So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 

Here's the results. 

Image Processing and Computer Vision Toolbox 4620
CPGE 3176
MinGw toolbox 2946
Arduino 2936
CelestLab 2841
iodelay toolbox 2429
Coselica 1812
SIMM 1800
Image Processing Design Toolbox 1394
Fuzzy Logic Toolbox 1186
Scilab Computer Vision Module 1129
GUI Builder 972
Scilab Image and Video Processing toolbox 860
Distfun 855
Apifun 804
Serial Communication Toolbox 781
Time Frequency Toolbox 776
Free Access Chemometric Toolbox 770
Autoelem Toolbox 768
Specfun 738

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Dear Chin Luh,

Thank you so much for addressing the critical topic of external modules maintenance.
While IPCV is the most downloaded module, your fair question
>So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 
sounds desperate to me. I rather share the same feeling: Almost 5 days after your message, not a single answer from users...!

So, apparently, the answer is likely: No, it's not worth maintaining the most downloaded module, and therefore No, it's not worth maintaining any other external module.
Let's stop maintaining ATOMS for 2021. The ghosts of silent users are certainly rich enough to pay commercial equivalent tools.

Since there are 12 days left before 2021, i will answer for particular cases in separate (sub-)threads.

Best regards
Samuel

Le 14/12/2020 à 05:44, Chin Luh Tan a écrit :
Sometimes it is hard to decide whether to continue maintaining an atoms module or not.... So I did "snapshots" of downloads on 9/11/2020 21:44 and 14/12/2020 12:20 respectively to see which modules are in the actual top downloads. 

Still, this is not a fair result, such as IPCV having some "patches" which will increase the download number, and some other factors as well. 

So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 

Here's the results. 

Image Processing and Computer Vision Toolbox 4620
CPGE 3176
MinGw toolbox 2946
Arduino 2936
CelestLab 2841
iodelay toolbox 2429
Coselica 1812
SIMM 1800
Image Processing Design Toolbox 1394
Fuzzy Logic Toolbox 1186
Scilab Computer Vision Module 1129
GUI Builder 972
Scilab Image and Video Processing toolbox 860
Distfun 855
Apifun 804
Serial Communication Toolbox 781
Time Frequency Toolbox 776
Free Access Chemometric Toolbox 770
Autoelem Toolbox 768
Specfun 738


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Hi Samuel. Chin Luh,

Ok...let me command as a user.

I hesitated to comment, because I am not sure if I am educated enough to answer the question, if IPCV maintenance should be continued. 

My first question back to Chin Luh would be...What do you mean by maintenance?... Adding new functions?

My second question is: Why would the obviously success of the toolbox be a reason to stop maintenance? 


Best Regards, 
Philipp



Am Freitag, 18. Dezember 2020 schrieb Samuel Gougeon <[hidden email]>:
Dear Chin Luh,

Thank you so much for addressing the critical topic of external modules maintenance.
While IPCV is the most downloaded module, your fair question
>So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 
sounds desperate to me. I rather share the same feeling: Almost 5 days after your message, not a single answer from users...!

So, apparently, the answer is likely: No, it's not worth maintaining the most downloaded module, and therefore No, it's not worth maintaining any other external module.
Let's stop maintaining ATOMS for 2021. The ghosts of silent users are certainly rich enough to pay commercial equivalent tools.

Since there are 12 days left before 2021, i will answer for particular cases in separate (sub-)threads.

Best regards
Samuel

Le 14/12/2020 à 05:44, Chin Luh Tan a écrit :
Sometimes it is hard to decide whether to continue maintaining an atoms module or not.... So I did "snapshots" of downloads on 9/11/2020 21:44 and 14/12/2020 12:20 respectively to see which modules are in the actual top downloads. 

Still, this is not a fair result, such as IPCV having some "patches" which will increase the download number, and some other factors as well. 

So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 

Here's the results. 

Image Processing and Computer Vision Toolbox 4620
CPGE 3176
MinGw toolbox 2946
Arduino 2936
CelestLab 2841
iodelay toolbox 2429
Coselica 1812
SIMM 1800
Image Processing Design Toolbox 1394
Fuzzy Logic Toolbox 1186
Scilab Computer Vision Module 1129
GUI Builder 972
Scilab Image and Video Processing toolbox 860
Distfun 855
Apifun 804
Serial Communication Toolbox 781
Time Frequency Toolbox 776
Free Access Chemometric Toolbox 770
Autoelem Toolbox 768
Specfun 738


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Le 14/12/2020 à 05:44, Chin Luh Tan a écrit :
Sometimes it is hard to decide whether to continue maintaining an atoms module or not.... So I did "snapshots" of downloads on 9/11/2020 21:44 and 14/12/2020 12:20 respectively to see which modules are in the actual top downloads. 

Still, this is not a fair result, such as IPCV having some "patches" which will increase the download number, and some other factors as well. 

So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 

Here's the results. 

Image Processing and Computer Vision Toolbox 4620
CPGE 3176
MinGw toolbox 2946
Arduino 2936
CelestLab 2841
iodelay toolbox 2429
Coselica 1812
SIMM 1800
Image Processing Design Toolbox 1394
Fuzzy Logic Toolbox 1186
Scilab Computer Vision Module 1129
GUI Builder 972
Scilab Image and Video Processing toolbox 860
Distfun 855
Apifun 804
Serial Communication Toolbox 781


For information, I upgraded this toolbox last summer, but I still have to document the upgrade. I plan to do it and to publish it on ATOMS in the next 2 weeks. It's on the top of my TODO list.

Samuel



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Dear All,

I haven't used IPCV
so far, but I was planning to start trying it when finishing with a project that will take me still most of 2021. And probably earlier than that, since something as basic as reading or saving an image file is not in the core of Scilab (I think it should be, in line with the availability of wavread / wavwrite or csvRead functions).

If terminating maintenance could eventually lead to an incompatibility with future versions of Scilab, I think it would be a bad thing.

But the addition of new features is a different question, and as usually happens with any FOSS project, is driven by the users's wish-lists and requests and by developers which are sufficiently motivated to work on those features. If there is no demand then there is no need to go further.

Regards,

Federico


On 18/12/2020 15:22, Samuel Gougeon wrote:
Dear Chin Luh,

Thank you so much for addressing the critical topic of external modules maintenance.
While IPCV is the most downloaded module, your fair question
>So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 
sounds desperate to me. I rather share the same feeling: Almost 5 days after your message, not a single answer from users...!

So, apparently, the answer is likely: No, it's not worth maintaining the most downloaded module, and therefore No, it's not worth maintaining any other external module.
Let's stop maintaining ATOMS for 2021. The ghosts of silent users are certainly rich enough to pay commercial equivalent tools.

Since there are 12 days left before 2021, i will answer for particular cases in separate (sub-)threads.

Best regards
Samuel

Le 14/12/2020 à 05:44, Chin Luh Tan a écrit :
Sometimes it is hard to decide whether to continue maintaining an atoms module or not.... So I did "snapshots" of downloads on 9/11/2020 21:44 and 14/12/2020 12:20 respectively to see which modules are in the actual top downloads. 

Still, this is not a fair result, such as IPCV having some "patches" which will increase the download number, and some other factors as well. 

So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 

Here's the results. 

Image Processing and Computer Vision Toolbox 4620
CPGE 3176
MinGw toolbox 2946
Arduino 2936
CelestLab 2841
iodelay toolbox 2429
Coselica 1812
SIMM 1800
Image Processing Design Toolbox 1394
Fuzzy Logic Toolbox 1186
Scilab Computer Vision Module 1129
GUI Builder 972
Scilab Image and Video Processing toolbox 860
Distfun 855
Apifun 804
Serial Communication Toolbox 781
Time Frequency Toolbox 776
Free Access Chemometric Toolbox 770
Autoelem Toolbox 768
Specfun 738


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Hi there

I am personally not the most vivid user of the IPCV, but I can see among my scripts that I was playing around with it in October 2018. I have used IPCV to manipulate a piece of graphics that I made, and in a programmatic way (something totally impractical in any other way). The results: https://www.cfuttrup.com/blogspot.html#think_global

I think the IPCV belongs in the toolbox for Scilab.

When it comes to ATOMS, I think the concept is fundamentally good. I am not qualified to give feedback to any of the specifics within ATOMS as I found it very difficult to read up on how to create an ATOMS module, so what I say is that as a tool for community driven development, it needs a lot better support.

With kind regards,
Claus

On 18-12-2020 19:22, Samuel Gougeon wrote:
Dear Chin Luh,

Thank you so much for addressing the critical topic of external modules maintenance.
While IPCV is the most downloaded module, your fair question
>So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 
sounds desperate to me. I rather share the same feeling: Almost 5 days after your message, not a single answer from users...!

So, apparently, the answer is likely: No, it's not worth maintaining the most downloaded module, and therefore No, it's not worth maintaining any other external module.
Let's stop maintaining ATOMS for 2021. The ghosts of silent users are certainly rich enough to pay commercial equivalent tools.

Since there are 12 days left before 2021, i will answer for particular cases in separate (sub-)threads.

Best regards
Samuel

Le 14/12/2020 à 05:44, Chin Luh Tan a écrit :
Sometimes it is hard to decide whether to continue maintaining an atoms module or not.... So I did "snapshots" of downloads on 9/11/2020 21:44 and 14/12/2020 12:20 respectively to see which modules are in the actual top downloads. 

Still, this is not a fair result, such as IPCV having some "patches" which will increase the download number, and some other factors as well. 

So should IPCV continue to be maintained ...? 

Here's the results. 

Image Processing and Computer Vision Toolbox 4620
CPGE 3176
MinGw toolbox 2946
Arduino 2936
CelestLab 2841
iodelay toolbox 2429
Coselica 1812
SIMM 1800
Image Processing Design Toolbox 1394
Fuzzy Logic Toolbox 1186
Scilab Computer Vision Module 1129
GUI Builder 972
Scilab Image and Video Processing toolbox 860
Distfun 855
Apifun 804
Serial Communication Toolbox 781
Time Frequency Toolbox 776
Free Access Chemometric Toolbox 770
Autoelem Toolbox 768
Specfun 738


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